Dr
Devi Prasad Shetty, one of India's leading heart surgeons,
is the stuff legends are made of. Radiating charm and compassion,
he has a commanding presence in the operation theatre, a bedside manner
to die for, and a mission to make quality heart care affordable to
the poor. We had the honor of interviewing him, and to see first hand,
some of the wonderful work he does, especially with kids. We were
not only impressed with his professional side and his lighter side,
but with the missionary zeal with which he moves government, private
and corporate individuals / organisations to join him in the crusade
to build heart hospitals in every state of India.
I understand that you and your team have perfected the art of assembly
heart surgery - can you elaborate on it?
I wouldn't say perfected, we are still working on it. We have to reduce
the cost of heart surgery from Rs 2 lakh to about Rs 65, 000, a sum
that our patients can afford. If we want to reduce the cost of the
product by 75% we have to change the way the product is delivered.
There is so much of sophistication added to all the specialisations
with which the mortality rate can be brought down significantly. Assembly
line heart surgery aims at achieving ZERO mortality and reducing
the cost by 75%. That is, we can manage a large number of procedures
at lesser cost. Currently at Manipal
Heart Foundation we do 14 to 16 operations a day.
The West is traditionally the place where people have been going for
treatment. But since the inception of the Manipal Heart Foundation,
more and more people are coming here for treatment. How has Manipal
Heart Foundation changed this?
There is a slot and someone has to occupy this slot. At Manipal we
have never created the market. There was a requirement for treatment
and we have just filled in the slot.
Elaborate on your programs to make heart surgery affordable to poor
people? If
I am given a choice I would like to treat only the poor patients.
But unfortunately the economic reality will not allow me to do that.
So instead what we do is, offer 25% of the beds for the rich people
and 75% we leave for the poor. When I say Rs 65,000, (for a heart
operation) not many can afford this sum. A person earning Rs 5,000
to
Rs 6,000 cannot afford this because the cost of living in Bangalore
is high. So we organise various fund schemes. We have worked out a
very interesting concept. In this society there are a large number
of people who need help but do not know where help will be available.
And there are a good number of people with money with the intention
to help but don't know who requires it. We do that intermediary job.
We are the brokers between those who need and those who have. We have
occupied that slot.
If we tell people that we are going to charge one and a half lakh
rupees for an operation, can you give us 30,000 rupees, does this
make any sense? That person is not going to give us the money. So
we tell him that we are going to operate on this child and offer our
services free. Can you help us do it? This has worked.
A lot of people have given money.
A good thing that has happened with information technology and
with the opening of the economy is that good people have started
earning money. Now we see people with honorable intentions becoming
rich. We are getting more and more assistance. A Bangalore based software
individual - for instance - I showed him around the hospital and he
promised to help. Few hours later he called and offered a donation
of Rs 6 crore (his laughter is that of pleasure, appreciation and
gratitude.)
Not everybody who helps is necessarily rich. I don't remember spending
even 5 minutes with this 60-year-old patient (a retired nurse) in
Calcutta. Her lawyer calls me, just the other day, to inform me that
she has willed her house in London to me.
Can you tell us more about your programs to help children with heart
ailments?
We started an organisation called Kiddies Heart Foundation.
(Pulls out the poster and points) - It will take 2 people to cure
this 2-day-old baby's heart. We have the doctor. We don't have the
resources. India conducts the largest number of heart operations on
children in the world. This is so because India produces the largest
number of children with heart disease in the world. One out of 100
children born anywhere in the world is born with a heart disease and
we produce the largest number of children in the world. I operate
free. But the associated costs are still high, so we have started
many programmes. (Click here
for more on Kiddies Heart foundation)
Which other doctors are doing cutting edge research / application
in your field?
The All India Institute of Medical Science in Delhi is
a very good heart hospital. Research work is mainly done in Sri
Chitra Tirunal Institute in Trivandrum, Kerala. Dr Velliathan,
the Director of
Sri Chitra Thirunal is doing a good job.
What do you have to say about the fresh candidates thronging the medical
colleges to make 'curing' their profession?
Here I would like to talk about job opportunities. The health care
industry of the world is going to undergo a dramatic change. It is
one of the most inefficient systems all over the world. Extremely
disorganised and under utilised. And the doctors and
the hospitals in India will do the transformation.
Let me explain - an experienced surgeon with years of experience behind
him in a particular operation has good results because of the volume
of surgeries he has done throughout his life. We already have a few
young surgeons working with us who are in their 30s who have already
done 2000 to 3000 surgeries. Now they have 20 or 30 years of active
life before they retire. You cannot imagine where they will go in
the next 10 years. Ultimately the result of whatever intervention
is done depends on the expertise, and expertise depends on numbers,
and in that number our youngsters are going to be overwhelming the
others. This is because of the volume of patients this country has.
With good administrative back up, we will be able to set up similar
facilities in UK and US. Sounds hypothetical, but you have to realize
that it is not mere national pride, it is economical reality. If we
have a group of heart specialists who have 10 times more experience
than the Americans, if we set up a hospital in America, it is just
a matter of time before the Indian doctors overtake the medical professionals
of the other countries.
How involved are you in management strategies? That is, managing growth,
efficiency, and innovations, all of which your organizations are famous
for? And how close are you towards fulfilling your dream of a heart
hospital in every state of India?
Sitting right here in Bangalore, things are getting done. For instance,
in Calcutta Mr Jyoti Basu granted us the land lease for the
new Heart Institute within 45 days! It was inaugurated recently.
This country has abundant talent. I don't think any other country
can boast of such a talented workforce. There are people as clever
as me and also people cleverer than me. I like to associate with people
cleverer than me. People with the right attitude and...
Competence?
Compassion! Skills will follow. The single most important characteristic
I require is compassion. There was this Iranian doctor. He
was okay& but when I heard he used to shelter and feed nomads,
you know, travelers, I said&I want that man!
What changes do you anticipate in heart surgery techniques in the
near future? Any science-fiction type developments on the anvil? No, no. I am happy with the current technology available to us,
and the human resources. What is more important in this new millennium
is reducing the cost and increasing the access of people to quality
heart treatment.
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If
I am given a choice I would like to treat only the poor patients.
But unfortunately the economic reality will not allow me to do that.
So instead what we do is, offer 25% of the beds for the rich people
and 75% we leave for the poor. When I say Rs 65,000, (for a heart
operation) not many can afford this sum. A person earning Rs 5,000
to
Rs 6,000 cannot afford this because the cost of living in Bangalore
is high. So we organise various fund schemes. We have worked out a
very interesting concept. In this society there are a large number
of people who need help but do not know where help will be available.
And there are a good number of people with money with the intention
to help but don't know who requires it. We do that intermediary job.
We are the brokers between those who need and those who have. We have
occupied that slot.
